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Post by Lickwid Apex on Thu May 09, 2013 11:49 am

So let it be written, so let it be done. Hominus Dominus Dem Feetimus.... Smile Or something.

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Post by S7 OC on Thu May 09, 2013 12:01 pm

Sound good as is ill miss one race scheduled as I will be on vacation. I can handle that.

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Post by Atrum on Thu May 09, 2013 12:06 pm

Looks good to me. I will miss the race on 6/20 - going to EDC in vegas that weekend and I leave that night at 10 EST. Maybe I'll sneak in 1-2 races? lol

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Post by OneBadHuskerFan on Thu May 09, 2013 4:56 pm

Lickwid Apex wrote:Thursdays are shaping up to be the goto race day. That will make Wednesday night a great night for me to hold a practice lap room for a couple hours for us to test tunes and make any final adjustments we feel are warranted.

I'd like to join those since it's been such a long time since I've played. I really need to practice, lol.

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Re: Season 3 Thoughts. Speak up!

Post by Lickwid Apex on Thu May 09, 2013 10:26 pm

No problemo. Race night is serious play time for me. Sh!t gets real.

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Post by DeadSockPuppet on Thu May 09, 2013 10:33 pm

Dates sound good to me. July 4th wouldn't matter for me cuz I'm not going on vacation and I don't work Thursdays. Too bad we're not racing, sounds like I'd podium just for showing up, J/K. Anyway, I hope to have a little girl that sleeps more regularly thru the night by then so that I can hit some events.

Zak, could you please post up the official Season 3 thread with the time, rules, and schedule. If I start working on and off now I could probably get ahead of the curve and start piecing together the first couple classes in my "fleet" for this season.

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Re: Season 3 Thoughts. Speak up!

Post by S7 OC on Fri May 10, 2013 7:36 am

So with season 3 not starting untill June I propose that we have at least 1 more late night series race. I'm not sure what we could do for it but some ideas would be testing some team racing or maybe a cat and mouse/ racer destroyer FTP set up.

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Re: Season 3 Thoughts. Speak up!

Post by Atrum on Fri May 10, 2013 10:03 am

I'll make a thread for that OC

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Re: Season 3 Thoughts. Speak up!

Post by S7 Interseptor on Mon May 13, 2013 11:55 am

OK. So right now It looks like the schedule will be as follows...

Season 3 Schedule:

Thursdays @ 9:30pm sharp

6/6 - F Class
6/20 - E Class
7/4 - Off (Holiday Week)
7/18 - D Class
8/1 - C Class
8/15 - B Class
8/29 - A Class
9/12 - S Class
9/26 - R3 Class (fin)

Do we have any objections? Speak now cause once the schedule is final, it's final.

Other issues:

Points system. I think the previous system was a little inflated for the top places and would like to update the points system to something closer to the first season. Below is my proposal for Season 3:

1st - 15pts
2nd - 13pts
3rd - 11pts
4th - 9pts
5th - 8pts
6th - 7pts
7th - 6pts
8th - 5pts
9th - 4pts
10th - 3pts
11th - 2pts
12th - 1pt

(and 1pt for participation and/or equal to last place points for the night)

This seems fair without being out of control. Bonuses given for podium finishes etc... Thoughts on the points system?

Team Racing:

I am for it. It would be a fun little side bet throughout out the season. I say we do it.

Anything I am missing? If not, speak up on the above topics and we will finalize the details this week.

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Re: Season 3 Thoughts. Speak up!

Post by OneBadHuskerFan on Mon May 13, 2013 12:51 pm

I'm all for team racing, but how does that work? Who gets on what teams? Obviously you guys know who is at what skill level so will you just split them up that way?

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Re: Season 3 Thoughts. Speak up!

Post by S7 Interseptor on Mon May 13, 2013 1:00 pm

OneBadHuskerFan wrote:I'm all for team racing, but how does that work? Who gets on what teams? Obviously you guys know who is at what skill level so will you just split them up that way?

Correct, and just for fun/bragging rights. Once we have everything set up, we will split up the team based off of overall finishes throughout past seasons to make the most balanced teams possible. You just race the best you can and help you team standings. Then we will monitor progress as the season progresses. Might even have a JFF faces off event at the end of the season. Red vs Blue kind of stuff.

All of it is on the side of the normal season and will not effect final standing. Just something fun to do.

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Re: Season 3 Thoughts. Speak up!

Post by OneBadHuskerFan on Mon May 13, 2013 4:02 pm

Ok, so it's still individual racing as far as official points goes or will it be points based on team results? I guess that's where I'm kind of confused.

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Re: Season 3 Thoughts. Speak up!

Post by Xpert2010 on Mon May 13, 2013 4:11 pm

From my understanding, it's individual racing as far as offical points. Team results are just-for-fun.

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Re: Season 3 Thoughts. Speak up!

Post by S7 Interseptor on Mon May 13, 2013 4:50 pm

Xpert2010 wrote:From my understanding, it's individual racing as far as offical points. Team results are just-for-fun.

This is correct.

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Post by Atrum on Mon May 13, 2013 5:50 pm

All looks good. I can't make the E-class race but I'm not going to suggest everyone postpone it because I'm raving in the desert lol.

Points look good for individual standings.

Team racing sounds awesome, and should be great for side events.
For team races are we doing total cumulative points? Or just wins?

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The team racing aspect is as follows: We assign every player to a team. If the teams are uneven at some point (4 players show from 1 team, 6 from the other) then we take the highest placing people (so top 4 vs top 4).
It doesn't matter at all for the individual events or racing strategy. It's just a fun thing to keep track of and throw some extra competition in there.

I think it will specifically help people that get "locked" in their position. Sometimes you're just stuck at 4th place with massive point gaps either way. In that case your motivation to show up for the races is still there to keep your teams score up.

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Post by Lickwid Apex on Tue May 14, 2013 8:58 am

Points look good. Dates look good. Time to start crushin' them dreams.

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Re: Season 3 Thoughts. Speak up!

Post by Xpert2010 on Tue May 14, 2013 10:31 am

When should teams be assigned? Maybe we should get a more accurate headcount of who will be (or attempt to) participate this season.

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Post by S7 Interseptor on Tue May 14, 2013 10:48 am

Xpert2010 wrote:When should teams be assigned? Maybe we should get a more accurate headcount of who will be (or attempt to) participate this season.

Good question. I was thinking that myself. I'll make a new post about it and see who signs up.

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Post by Atrum on Tue May 14, 2013 12:22 pm

Couldn't we just assign teams at the first event?

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Re: Season 3 Thoughts. Speak up!

Post by S7 Interseptor on Tue May 14, 2013 12:56 pm

AtrumX wrote:Couldn't we just assign teams at the first event?

We very well could, unless someone misses the first event etc...

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Post by Xpert2010 on Tue May 14, 2013 1:09 pm

What happens when someone shows up who hasn't signed up, and simply placing them on any team would cause statistical imbalance?

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Post by Atrum on Tue May 14, 2013 1:17 pm

Xpert2010 wrote:What happens when someone shows up who hasn't signed up, and simply placing them on any team would cause statistical imbalance?

Already went over that, the top X players from each team will have their points count toward the team points for each race. So if there are any team imbalances (numerically) then it will always score 4v4, 5v5, etc.

As far as skill imbalances, we have a general idea of how most people place. Granted this changes from season to season, we should be able to make them fairly even. Players missing events will have a bigger effect than anything else on team results. If Zak can't make a tournament, that will be a huge impact to their team - then again players that missed the last season and might show up will also shake things up (Wiggles, Husker, Glock, etc)

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Post by Xpert2010 on Tue May 14, 2013 1:48 pm

What about this scenario:

Teams have been created prior to race
3 people show for Blue Team
4 people show for Red Team
1 person shows who's not on a team

You'd want to place the teamless person on Blue Team to make the teams even, but doing so would cause a major imbalance.

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Post by Atrum on Tue May 14, 2013 2:16 pm

That's a good point, my thoughts:

The regular attendees will have posted up in the thread/attended the first tournament. If someone shows up late to the game that could make a huge difference (only person I can think of that might randomly appear mid season and make such an impact is glock) we'll handle it when it comes up. No reason to plan for craziness like that until it happens.

I think once we have the teams assigned we can make a much more detailed post and this can go in the Q&A. My thoughts would be ask the people attending what they prefer. Everyone still races and gets their points, so I doubt it would cause huge drama.

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Post by S7 Interseptor on Tue May 14, 2013 2:17 pm

Personally I am not too worried about it. It is just for fun. And despite being as balanced as possible, all kinds of stuff could pop up to screw it up. Apex could get a shift a work and start missing every other Tourney, I could miss a Tourney, Puppet is put opposite OC on separate teams and then Puppet can't make most of the Tourneys etc...

I am hoping it will be somewhat even but I am not going to lose sleep over it.

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