Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

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Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by S7 OC on Thu May 10, 2012 8:56 am

Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages' for limiting browser choice, Google nods in agreement
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/10/mozilla-slaps-windows-rt-as-a-return-to-the-digital-dark-ages/

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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by Atrum on Thu May 10, 2012 9:58 am

Lol I suppose if a major client said they were not allowing my search engine on their phones I'd whine about it too.

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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by S7 mrmiller on Thu May 10, 2012 10:31 am

AtrumX wrote:Lol I suppose if a major client said they were not allowing my search engine on their phones I'd whine about it too.

You mean I can use Bing on the iPhone? What about the Zune player and streaming?

I wonder what the would would be like if businesses were out to make money and keep themselves at a competitive advantage... you know, so they could stay in business? Crazy world.

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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by S7 Panzer on Thu May 10, 2012 11:19 am

Honestly if Android ran everything I use as good as windows I would just switch OS permanently.

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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by S7 OC on Thu May 10, 2012 11:43 am

Yes you can bing search on an iPhone. Zune well is ms made an app probably. But I'm just posting an ingesting article I read not trying to start a topic about this is better than this .....

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Post by S7 mrmiller on Thu May 10, 2012 11:50 am

I know OC. I was just trying to say companies are going to make business decisions on what they think is best for their business. The consumer always gets the shaft, but if you don't "vote" with your pocketbook/wallet, it will just keep going. Like the jump form $10 to $15 DLC on XBL.

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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by Atrum on Thu May 10, 2012 11:51 am

Ingesting article... xD

Definitely interesting that they're not allowing other search engines. Internet Exploder has to stay relevant somehow I suppose.

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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by S7 OC on Thu May 10, 2012 12:45 pm

Internet exploder XD

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Post by S7 Panzer on Thu May 10, 2012 12:48 pm


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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by Xpert2010 on Thu May 10, 2012 12:58 pm

S7 Panzer wrote:

Does*

PLUS IE is awesome, nuff said.

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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by S7 Panzer on Thu May 10, 2012 1:29 pm

rofl I plucked that off the internet whoever made that meme is a fail. I'm also a fail for not seeing the spelling error.

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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by S7 Epic on Thu May 10, 2012 2:13 pm

Most of our clients will only use Internet Explorer. It's annoying as hell.

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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by DeadSockPuppet on Thu May 10, 2012 3:45 pm

IE is garbage. I'm a Firefox user, except for Safari on my iPhone. I hear Chrome is pretty good too. Like 15 years ago I used to use Netscape because I hated IE so much.

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Post by S7 Epic on Thu May 10, 2012 4:04 pm

Chrome FTW.

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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by Atrum on Thu May 10, 2012 6:26 pm

Xpert2010 wrote:
S7 Panzer wrote:

Does*

PLUS IE is awesome, nuff said.

FAIL*

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Post by S7 OC on Thu May 10, 2012 6:34 pm

I have Fire fox Safari and Chrome on my Mac book and like th option to use any of them.

What ever happen to Netscape and Webcrawler??

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Post by DeadSockPuppet on Thu May 10, 2012 7:42 pm

S7 OC wrote:I have Fire fox Safari and Chrome on my Mac book and like th option to use any of them.

What ever happen to Netscape and Webcrawler??

I was reading that Netscape fell apart when AOHell bought them because they didn't keep up the innovations that Netscape had been known for and IE surpassed them. That and MS started packaging IE with Windows. That was the start of, or near the start of, the anti-trust and monopoly cases against MS.

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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by S7 Coolhand on Fri May 11, 2012 1:00 pm

While I agree businesses should make decisions that best help them to profit, a monopoly may not abuse its market power at the expense of the consumer.

Back in 1998 Microsoft (Windows and IE) was the subject of a huge antitrust lawsuit. Competitor browsers argued that MS was bundling its IE with Windows unnecessarily, and since Windows is a monopoly (based on market share) on the Intel driven OEM PC market it unfairly hampered competition to the detriment of consumers. Microsoft lost, and the DOJ (Department of Justice) considered breaking Microsoft up into pieces so they could not abuse that power. After an appeal, DOJ decided to only fine them instead of breaking them up since they have integrated IE into Windows so deeply. When the DOJ fines you they determine what you have cost your competitors and then triple it - a very stiff penalty. MS says IE is "free," but really they raise the cost of Windows to cover the cost of IE developement. Part of the settlement was to allow unrestricted access to their source code to the browser competitors. So they lost their suit and were told they cannot use their OS to unfairly stemy competition by bundling only their browser.

Now the antitrust provisions have expired and MS is at it again. They say these other browsers can't run on Windows 8, which is true since those developers do not have access to the Windows 8 source code. Another antitrust suit is brewing and I forsee MS getting more than a wrist slap this time. If they continue down this road they will get hammered by the DOJ for violating the Sherman Act and will likely get split up this time. Lawyers will get rich and consumers will continue to lose out on competitive innovation for years to come until it is resolved. The biggest problem is that while it is being litagated their is damage being done to these other companies and they have to manager to survive until the courts can stop the bad business practices of MS. After all it is hard to award damages to a company that no longer exists.

My source: I had an antitrust class on my way to earning a degree in Economics.

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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by S7 Epic on Fri May 11, 2012 4:17 pm

Isn't it just the tablet version of W8 that MS are keeping other browsers from?

For me, that is totally understandable. Sure, IE may be sh1t on Windows desktop but if they plan to integrate it thoroughly throughout the tablet version, it'll probably come out as a nice package.

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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by Atrum on Fri May 11, 2012 5:22 pm

S7 Epic wrote:Isn't it just the tablet version of W8 that MS are keeping other browsers from?

For me, that is totally understandable. Sure, IE may be sh1t on Windows desktop but if they plan to integrate it thoroughly throughout the tablet version, it'll probably come out as a nice package.

My thoughts as well.

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Re: Mozilla calls Windows RT a return to the 'digital dark ages'

Post by S7 Interseptor on Wed May 30, 2012 11:45 am

Xpert2010 wrote:
S7 Panzer wrote:

Does*

PLUS IE is awesome, nuff said.

Saw this today and had to share. IE does lead the way in one category...



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