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Post by S7 Panzer on Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:59 pm

Im currently an Orc running a full dragon armor set and the sword named "dawkbreaker" all of these lvls are 100 - smithing, blocking, heavy armor, one handed weapons im also a werewolf.

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Post by DeadSockPuppet on Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:21 pm

And everyone is maxing blacksmithing so you can make/improve/repair your own weaps, right?

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Post by S7 Panzer on Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:35 pm

you can't buy dragon armor you have to make it from the scales and bones of the dragons you kill. You need 100 blacksmithing to unlock the ability to make dragon armor.

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Post by DeadSockPuppet on Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:54 pm

Good to know, I'll have to start working on this.

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Post by Shuntentatsu on Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:47 am

I'm curious, what is the armor rating of a full set of Dragon Armor?

Also new character time, Nord, with a focus on the magicks. Gonna start from Solitude and make my way to the Great College of Winterhold that I keep hearing about.

(Yes, I know all about it, but this character doesn't.)

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Post by S7 Panzer on Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:49 am

With a full dragon armor set upgraded to legendary status I have 424 armor that is with only having 4/5 Juggernaut stat and having nothing else unlocked that gives me increased armor stats.

EDIT: That is the heavy Dragon armor.

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Post by S7 Coolhand on Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:05 pm

Mine is well over 600, I wore four items with +blacksmith while upgrading.

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Post by DeadSockPuppet on Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:50 am

Is it possible to make a light dragon armor, something that a their/assassin would use? If not I'm trying to decide if it's worth maxing blacksmithing if the armor I make I won't use. I guess I could make heavy dragon armor to sell and use the money to buy equipment my their can use and I could use the skill to make weapons my theif can use. Also what are soul gems used for? I think I read something about recharging a magic axe I have with them but I'm not sure.

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Re: Skyrim, what race are you playing?

Post by S7 mrmiller on Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:11 am

Yes, you can make light dragon armor. You can make dragon scale armor (light) or dragon bone armor (heavy). What I'm using now is fine at only the leather armor, as I'm an archer and really don't take many hits in a fight. Plus I have a companion and conjure up another side kick during the big battles.

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Post by DeadSockPuppet on Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:21 am

Good to know. While I don't plan on taking massive damage (being a thief/assassin) there are still those times when you go in for a sneak attack and something happens to keep you from dropping the target in one hit and it's nice to be able to soak some damage before you can get away.

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Re: Skyrim, what race are you playing?

Post by S7 Interseptor on Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:24 pm

You can get some more than adequate light armor throughout the game so don't stress it too much. In fact the armor I have now (at lvl 33) is probably the only armor I will wear for the rest of the game. I didn't have to make it and received it as a part of a quest line. Same is true with a lot of the weapons. There are some amazing weapons out there just ripe for the taking.

Back on topic: Basically, I would say that the best thing to do when starting off is save up most of your perk upgrades until you figure out exactly what/how you want to play. You may start off thinking you want to be a thief and end up using a lot of magic. Or you might start off as a mage and end up using the sword and shield. Or maybe a hybrid of several different skills. In any event, once you find out the most important skills for you, then you can use those saved up perks to start getting real power.

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Re: Skyrim, what race are you playing?

Post by S7 mrmiller on Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:18 pm

Do you think it is wise to do the 5 sessions of training every time you level? I havenít been doing this, and now fear Iím going to get where I donít level as much and not be able to get the proper training in. For example, say my pickpocket skill is 10 and Iím level 40. If I was my pickpocket up to be 60, I would have to train in it every level up to 50 before I could move on to training up another skill- or just pickpocket everyone in Skyrim. Of course that just an example as I could care less about pickpocketing (If I had to do it for a quest I could always go the Save game- drink potion- attempt- reload, route) but you get my point. Like at level 50 deciding I want to use some destruction magic is going to be pointless if my skill is still down in the teens, but the most I could rank it up is 5 points.

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Re: Skyrim, what race are you playing?

Post by S7 Interseptor on Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:23 pm

S7 mrmiller wrote:Do you think it is wise to do the 5 sessions of training every time you level? I havenít been doing this, and now fear Iím going to get where I donít level as much and not be able to get the proper training in. For example, say my pickpocket skill is 10 and Iím level 40. If I was my pickpocket up to be 60, I would have to train in it every level up to 50 before I could move on to training up another skill- or just pickpocket everyone in Skyrim. Of course that just an example as I could care less about pickpocketing (If I had to do it for a quest I could always go the Save game- drink potion- attempt- reload, route) but you get my point. Like at level 50 deciding I want to use some destruction magic is going to be pointless if my skill is still down in the teens, but the most I could rank it up is 5 points.

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Not sure. I haven't really train in anything either. I did a little training in Pickpocketing and Archery early on but that is about it. I think it is more important to train in the areas you don't use very often. If you Sneak all the time, you probably have a high level sneak and there is no reason to train. Pickpocketing as an example is rarely used so training in that might be useful. But in general, if I don't use it now, I doubt I will use it later either. Still if you have the money and see a trainer, why not?

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Re: Skyrim, what race are you playing?

Post by S7 mrmiller on Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:56 pm

That's what I'm thinking on training. I don't use wards or healing spells often, but it would be nice to know that if I'm in a jam I could throw one out there. I'm level 30 or 31, with my Archery at 80+, Sneak 80+, and Lockpick 70+. I would guess speech and one handed may be about 30, and conjuration and light armor are in their 20's, but everything else is not going to be much higher than default. I guess I need to level up smithing (which is fairly easy) and enchanting at some time.

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Re: Skyrim, what race are you playing?

Post by S7 Epic on Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:13 pm

Yeah, just see what is low and get that up via training.

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Re: Skyrim, what race are you playing?

Post by S7 mrmiller on Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:17 pm

The problem is you can only train up 5 total skills per level. So if you wait until your level 50 or 60, you are not going to be doing much to help your skills.

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Post by S7 Nate on Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:24 pm

S7 mrmiller wrote:The problem is you can only train up 5 total skills per level. So if you wait until your level 50 or 60, you are not going to be doing much to help your skills.

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i have been leveling up with trainers since the beginning of the game. i focus on those that i would take too long to build up on my own by just playing but that i do use for important stuff such as enchanting, smithing, etc

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Re: Skyrim, what race are you playing?

Post by S7 Epic on Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:01 pm

S7 mrmiller wrote:The problem is you can only train up 5 total skills per level. So if you wait until your level 50 or 60, you are not going to be doing much to help your skills.

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I thought that the level didn't cap until you'd maxed out all skills...?

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Re: Skyrim, what race are you playing?

Post by S7 Coolhand on Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:23 pm

S7 Epic wrote:
S7 mrmiller wrote:The problem is you can only train up 5 total skills per level. So if you wait until your level 50 or 60, you are not going to be doing much to help your skills.

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I thought that the level didn't cap until you'd maxed out all skills...?
That's my understanding too but I could be wrong. What I think: You continue to get perks as you earn X more skill points and level up. Once all are at 100 you cannot level up anymore, hence no more perks to spend. Buying training just makes you earn skill points on that skill artificially moving you toward level up faster. I only see training being of benefit if their is a skill you just hate using, but each can be done by any type of player. Even at high levels their are still some places you can use your crappy low level skill and be effective. If at level 60 you are a master of heavy armor with mounds of health but want to level up your light armor, just find some skeletons or something, but on light armor and let them wail on you for 15 minutes or so while you heal yourself.

Be sure to hold onto all those petty soul gems as they are the best way to level up enchanting. I lost quite a bit of cash by selling a lot of those early on then needing to buy a bunch to max my enchanting early.

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Post by S7 Epic on Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:43 pm

Selling the soul gems, rookie mistake.

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Re: Skyrim, what race are you playing?

Post by Shuntentatsu on Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:00 pm

S7 Epic wrote:
S7 mrmiller wrote:The problem is you can only train up 5 total skills per level. So if you wait until your level 50 or 60, you are not going to be doing much to help your skills.

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I thought that the level didn't cap until you'd maxed out all skills...?

This is how it is. Every skill at 100 would give you the max level, being 81 in this case.

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Post by DeadSockPuppet on Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:16 am

S7 Epic wrote:Selling the soul gems, rookie mistake.

Good, so I got a crapload of those filled and in a chest in my house. Wasn't sure what to use them for aside from refilling the charges in my axe. Does anyone know where I could find a trainer for pickpocketing. I'm only an 11th or 12th lvl character so I can't go running off somewhere that I'm going to get my ass handed to me but I'll still take some ideas.

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Post by S7 Coolhand on Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:20 am

I have Azura's Star, a reusable black gem. Very useful.
Pickpocket trainer is in the Thieves Guild under Rifton.

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Post by S7 mrmiller on Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:29 am

Yea, I have tons of soul gems (from doing the different dewmar related quests) and just started ranking up enchanting. If you rank up your smithing with making the daggers, then your enchanting with enchanting those daggers, you can level up fairly quickly and also net some solid cash at the same time. Also, as a side effect you can add some to your speech skill too.

Pickpocket and Alchemy are the two skills I see no use for. I find too many potions that weigh me down, and don't really see a need to make more. Unless I need to pickpocket someone for a quest, I have no need for that either when I can just raid their house with my other thieving skills.

What I need to start spending cash on is my conjuration skills. You canít just keep conjuring up things, but have to cast it in a ďmeaningfulĒ manner. So you have to cast it when you are actually in a battle. So that is very little casting for me as a thief/rouge, and the element of surprise is my biggest asset, but having my conjured creature run interference during a hand-to-hand fight is a huge help.

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Post by S7 Epic on Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:34 am

S7 mrmiller wrote:Yea, I have tons of soul gems (from doing the different dewmar related quests) and just started ranking up enchanting. If you rank up your smithing with making the daggers, then your enchanting with enchanting those daggers, you can level up fairly quickly and also net some solid cash at the same time. Also, as a side effect you can add some to your speech skill too.

Pickpocket and Alchemy are the two skills I see no use for. I find too many potions that weigh me down, and don't really see a need to make more. Unless I need to pickpocket someone for a quest, I have no need for that either when I can just raid their house with my other thieving skills.

What I need to start spending cash on is my conjuration skills. You canít just keep conjuring up things, but have to cast it in a ďmeaningfulĒ manner. So you have to cast it when you are actually in a battle. So that is very little casting for me as a thief/rouge, and the element of surprise is my biggest asset, but having my conjured creature run interference during a hand-to-hand fight is a huge help.

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For the alchemy, just make potions to improve smithing and enchanting. It's a glorious cycle...

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